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Velikovsky, Hero or Villain? Plasma Cosmology Astronomy
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– January 18, 2010
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It should be noted that ‘piece of magic’ can be more accurately described as ‘comparison of observations to general solutions of maxwell’s electrodynamic field equations as applied to charged particles in a space using the methods of vector calculus under varying field conditions’. This, by the way, is the same piece of magic used in almost all modern engineering fields. Common face saving method: Go to a library and read something useful before making ridiculous posts.
What, that Venus has abundant life, that flies don’t need oxygen, and that carbon-based life easily survives being heated to incandescence?
So, what has this piece of magic called ‘plasma cosmology’ been able to predict correctly? What has science not been able to predict correctly?
Where do you hallucinate a desire for making wrong claims on Sagan’s part?
I always knew Velikovsky was a genius. The answer respect the way he was attacked resides basically in two explanations.
The first: Envy. It is known scientists are the priests of the new religion: science.
The second: Such soupdragon says, or better said, Velikovsky: there is a sort of amnesia, that prevents us to accept the reality. And I have to say at least: Sagan suffered (like most of us) that illness.
@PopeAsbestos Gravitational lensing can easily be said to be a misapplication of Einstein’s work. It is not proof. Black holes are also more math. No physical evidence has ever been found to support this math, but a significant amount of re-working (aka, fudging) has been done to include other imaginary things like dark matter and dark energy.
Plasma cosmology, in comparison, has not had to revisit its hypotheses as data comes in. Predictable, found in experiment, it is an easier swallow.
The first track was Angelic – not Delirium, right?
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This explains quite clearly how Extra Terrestrial Races can travel through Space at faster than light speed. Even being able to jump into other Dimensions I dare say. With this abundant and ever changing FREE ENERGY in Space, there is no doubt about harnessing it for Interstellar travel, ANYWHERE.
Please refer to my videos on Black Holes. Also lookup the work of the mathematician Stephen J Crothers. This has nothing to do with Velikovsky. Best. Soup
Ha! There you go again silencing debate, like a true Torquemada! Black holes don’t fit your dogmatic view of the world, so their very mention must be censored. Quite the scientist, aren’t you? This all must be quite embarrassing for you.
I am not obliged to provide an alternative explanation. These theories need burying, not debating.
That having been said, plasma cosmology has provided rational explanations based on experiment and evidence rather than abstract math.
Newtonian/Relativistic mechanics are not working? Do you care to provide an alternative explanation of say, gravitational lensing or black holes?
Velikowsky’ s Theories 80 percent true
we can see the evidence that in a shot time
This guy was a Giant living at the mercy of pigmes! Its now commonly known that Plasma from the sun knocks out sattelites affects weather storms, and national power grids worldwide etc (yes I know there was NO sattelites in the 40’s or 50’s until Sputnik) This Guy should have schools named after him!
Newtonian/Relativistic mechanics are not working. There are too many anomalies. All spacecraft trajectories, for example, have required adjustment, and many have crashed.
Velikovsky made specific predictions based on an electromagnetic model of the solar system, the majority of which have proved correct over time.
Comapring Velikovsky with an astrologer is cheap and bigoted.
Sagan isn’t defending Velikowsky at all. He is just stating that such boycott goes against what a scientific mind stands for.
Velikowsky catastrophes are entirely impossible without wildly varying the Newtonian/relativistic mechanics. And this mechanics have been proved right not only by planet orbits but by the calculation of the trajectories of human spacecrafts.
Velikowsky has a rate of success getting things right akin to astrologers: by making up random stuff, some things will be right.
Yes, Alfven is my hero, and mentioned in most of my videos. Tesla inferred that space was alive wilth electromgnetism, but I am not aware of him ever using the term plasma. Best Regards. Soup
soupdragon- the reaosn Tesla did not mention “plasma” is because such a term was applied by -I believe- Alfen.
descriptions of Tesla’s experiments point to plasmatic effects.
in fact, there account of “blobs” of energy accumulated in the ceiling of his lab, as he lit it (if memory serves) wirelessly. can’t recall if this was before they burned down his lab. at any rate, “space energies” as Tesla studied them seem to behave plasmatically. Radiant energy.
Sagan is a twat. His criticism of Velikovsky stinks of “Wish I had thought of that!”
Glad to see Sagan correcting the error of his way in dismissing Velikovsky’s work.
I have made a separate video about Tesla. My most recent video in fact. I’m not aware of Tesla actually using the word Plasma, but there are many interesting parallels with his work.
Interesting that no mention is made here of Nicolai Tesla, who’s groundbreaking work in the study of plasma and em fields and who first proposed Universal plasma discharges…and their composition (which has just recently been verified) likely played a part in Velikovsky’s cosmology. I don’t know if this is true, as I have not read anything of Velikovsky.
MacMillian scientific books were threatened to be blacklisted if Velikovsky’s books were published. So Putnam gave it up. Scientific predictions are not wanted from ancient text analysis and sighted deduction. Illuminati science is ordered from above and not deducted by the individual. Gee, almost like observations in a scientific method but who cares. Too close the the FBI banned science of Tesla was Velikovsky’s electric universe and now of Eric Lerner promoted by Bill Lyne.
You are 100% correct, not to mention all the publishing houses that rule the academic world, hence the attack on the man. What is interesting, he has never been proven wrong, and in many instances he has been proven correct. Dogma is what most science should be called. I have read 4 of Velikovsky’s books and they are brilliant.